Proofs and You
Sandy Vanderbleek
@haskellandchill
github.com/svanderbleek
Raising VC money in NYC for a proof based math education app hmu
What are they?
And why should you care?
... I don't know
I've been studying it for years
Nothing works
Every app I use is broken
Deeplinks are generally always broken
Industry
Timescale ~ months
Can't share code because of fat wallets yo
Academia
Timescale ~ decades
Slow to share code for some reason... ego?
Impossible?
Dijkstra said it was, I tried to make it work for a decade and gave up but why not spend my 30s on it 🤷♀️
https://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD11xx/EWD1175.html
Who's trying?
Geogebra (Grobener Basis idk I suck at linear algebra)
Edukera (via web front end over Coq hard to use)
Dragon Box (for kids but great execuation) also Euclidea
various MOOCs (garbage)
CMU (Frank Pfenning and crew)
Mathematicians but they don't care if you understand
Nota Bene
If you believe it’s ok to trick people to make money walk out now that’s not what proofs is
f*** blockchain sorry but whatever they are doing with smart contracts they are just chasing cash and haphazardly using formal methods I can't even
YOU CAN'T JUST INVENT PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES WITHOUT DOING ANY RESEARCH AT ALL PEOPLE COME ON
If you don't know who Dana Scott is like... you didn't do your homework, and showing no respect for a legend... not ok, yes this is a rant but just this slide mostly sorry
Don't Give up!
Found this dope new book on hacker news: Fundamental Proof Methods in Computer Science
Read some of it and was like hell yea
Met with one of the authors and we dished some good stuff
You can really learn math with it unlike Coq or Isabelle or Idris (Edwin Brady told me not to bother ha)
Goes well with Handbook of Practical (lol shade) Logic and Automated Reasoning which kind of shows you how to implement Athena in OCaml
So... Athena
Bad name
Trying to get it on Github ASAP
REPL is hot garbage like Ocaml default
If you know something better like tell me right now
What I want
Prove run time of algorithms (cost semantics, haven't seen much usable work on this)
Correctness/invariants etc (Athena is good at this)
To learn through the proofs, no magic tactics or global proof state (Athena is amaze at this)
Tooling (pipe dream I know...)
Types Logic Sorts Whatever
Don't get too caught up in names details bad notations bike shedding ya know
Focus on the concepts, they are good, promise, trust me
Athena uses "Sorts" cause of Universal Algebra or whatever who cares
Stop getting caught up in Type Theory details like dependent types and general unification that works for everything or whatever and do some specific optimized things, doesn't have to be slow but currently cause we want the whole world
Cool Stuff
- substitutions are primitives!
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datatype-axioms, assumption base
- forall ~ pick-any
- exists ~ pick-witness
- by-induction
- chain
Leibniz Equality and Transitive chaining
Long history
Gries, Dijkstra, Automath, ACL2, Other weird stuff, Term rewriting, Free algebras, Natural deduction, Semantic Tableux, I'm just listing things I ran out of time no REPL it's too hard to use fluently and will just slow us down let's chat or something cool
Wait uh certified computation think about that for a second
soundness > completeness!
change my mind?
you can't I guess idk
Wait there's another slide?
my boss is angry because this isn't related to work lol
in math you assume things then prove things
athena has assume of course
reverse maths, what you want to prove to what you have to assume (impossible or idk)
Athena REPL from the book if you want me to
I can open a chapter and hack at it
PDFs are lame
love books
😍
I'm on snapchat like all the time (that map!)
last slide! promise 😇
yes I'm a crazy person
well typed memes for constructivist teens
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Proofs
By Sandy Vanderbleek
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