Simon Hettrick

5 November 2025 - CoSeC Community Forum, Durham     ORCID: 0000-0002-6809-5195

The Hidden REF

If we don't recognise everyone who is vital to research,

we limit our ability to conduct research.

www.software.ac.uk

Use software

Fundamental to results

69%

92%

n=417

Who's writing all the software?

Researcher

Software

Engineer

Research

Software

Engineer

"We are agreed! We will make another meaningless change to the holiday leave application form."

  1. Research Outputs [*]

  2. Research Impact [†]

  3. Research Environment [‡]

* It's not actually called  this, it's called the "Contribution to Knowledge and Understanding"... but I'm amongst friends

† They called this one "Engagement and impact"

‡ And this one's actually called "People, culture and environment"

157 universities

Publications are the Bhurj Khalifa

Height = 830m

Exhibitions are a typical UK house

~ 5m

Software is a matchbox

~ 5cm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(standing on its side)

Publications are Thrust SSC

763mph

Exhibitions are a horse

~ 20mph

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(cantering not galloping)

Software is a snail

~ 0.05mph

Publications are a Blue Whale

~ 120,000kg

Exhibitions are a Crocodile

~ 750kg

Software is a Dachshund

~ 7kg

What's your problem with papers?

People who are

vital to research

People who are named in publications

Academics

RSEs, Technicians,

Librarians, Data

Stewards, PRISMS,

RMAs... and more

The Venn of academic importance and recognition

Show me the incentive and I will show you the outcome

- Charlie Munger

Recognising all research outputs and all the people needed to conduct research will make research more equitable and more effective.

Recognising all research outputs and every role that makes research possible

 

www.hidden-ref.org

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This will allow the submission of outputs by any staff member, including non-academic staff.

Staff

Also staff

https://www.researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-uk-research-councils-2024-11-ref-brings-on-board-initiative-championing-hidden-research

https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenREFCampaign/podcasts

If we recognise everyone who is vital to research,

we advance our ability to conduct research.

Thank you!

ORCID: 0000-0002-6809-5195, AHRC Grant no: AH/Z000114/1

Licence

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Link to slides

https://slides.com/simonhettrick/rse-con-25

 

Email

sjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk

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